Crime Victims Support Association

It is my personal opinion and as I have said before, the best cure for scum like this is not to warehouse them at our expense in jail.

Permanent rehabilitation at the end of a rope would certanly work for me, what about you?

Readers vote in favour of return of death penalty in the wake of Leigh Robinson’s conviction over murder of Tracey Greenbury

Russell Robinson, AAP
From: Herald Sun
September 23, 2009 12:00AM

Harold Dunn’s daughter Valerie was viciously stabbed and murdered by Leigh Robinson in 1968. Picture: David Caird

AN advocate for victims of crime has called for an overhaul of the justice system as Herald Sun readers vote in favour of a return of the death penalty in the wake of Leigh Robinson’s conviction.

Noel McNamara’s comments come after 61-year-old Leigh Robinson was convicted on Tuesday for murdering his girlfriend Tracey Greenbury, 33.

Robinson’s latest conviction comes 40 years after he was sentenced to death in 1968 for the stabbing murder of an ex-girlfriend. That sentence was commuted to a 20-year jail term.

Mr McNamara said Robinson should never have been allowed out of jail, adding that maximum sentences for convicted murderers needed to handed out.

“Anyone that is classed as a murderer and has been sentenced as a murderer and then comes out and commits other crimes of violence, and gets slaps on the wrist, we just find that a terrible thing,” Mr McNamara told AAP.

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This I would believe would have happened in Germany in the 30’s as Adolph Hitler wound back democracy. These bleeding heart judges (who have been elevated from defence barristers) have decided, in their own little cartels, to tell us that the philosophy of “Justice must not only be seen to be done but must be done” is now dead and buried.

Over the ten years of Attorney General Rob Hulls’ term of office I have witnessed our legal system slowly taking away victims rights in favor of the criminal’s.

One that really got to me is the leanency shown to ex Hells Angel Terry Tognolini. Now as I did my rounds over the past year this scumbags kept appearing in different County Courts with different judges on different charges. One thing that stood out like a dogs tail was that jurys were not allowed to know about his Hells Angels past, yet if the victims had a past it was made loud and clear to the jury!

Tognolini was convicted and sentenced recently for standover crimes. In addition to sexual offences for which he was already serving time, he got another lousy 18 months!

Bring on the elections, the sooner the better.

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What is going on in our Justice System, the one that is supposed to belong to us, the community at large? I have to say that whatever sort of jungle juice is in these judge’s morning tea is beyond me…

In the Appeals Court recently we had Justices’ Ashley, Nettle, and Wineberg grant Peter Dupas a retrial over the brutal murder of Mersina Halvagas.

You have to ask youself why.

This dirtbag is going to leave jail in a body bag and so he should, the sooner the better! Yet these idiots Judges (Ashley appointed 2005, Nettle appionted 2004 and Winberg appointed 2008) have made this decision, for want of a better phrase, to “stick it up” the Halvagas family.

Now the next story says it all in terms of judicial stupidy. Judge Lizzie Curtain believes that the following crime was not racially motivated…

Justice Elizabeth Curtain imposes ban on showing men responsible for Liep Gony murder

* Norrie Ross
* From: Herald Sun
* December 12, 2009 12:00AM

A JUDGE has hidden the faces of two ruthless killers who beat a Sudanese refugee to death because she fears they might suffer retribution in prison.

Justice Elizabeth Curtain said the personal safety of Clinton Rintoull and Dylan Sabatino was more important than the public’s right to see their images.

The Supreme Court judge also said the murder of Liep Gony, 18, was not racially motivated – despite Rintoull spraying racist graffiti and saying he was “going to take the town back” by killing blacks.

Lawyers for Rintoull and Sabatino argued that because the attack was said to be racially motivated, their clients would be under threat in jail from Sudanese prisoners.

Justice Curtain also banned publication of photos of racist graffiti sprayed by Rintoul, which said “F— da niggas”.

In sentencing, the judge said Rintoull had been angry after a confrontation with Sudanese youths at Noble Park station, and his racial comments “bespeak of anger, frustration and a sense of vigilantism”.

But she did not believe the attack was racially motivated because, a few days before, Rintoull had made sandwiches for a homeless African youth.

Mr Gony’s family were stunned and outraged.

Outside court, his uncle, Dodeng Pouch, said it was clear the attack was racial.

“The words they have said before the attack – they went out motivated, they went out to do the job, they went out to search for a murder, to kill a black man,” he said.

Mr Gony’s mother, Martha Ojullo Alama, said:

“My son was preyed on and killed like a dog on the street and justice didn’t give me what I was hoping to hear, what I was hoping that they deserved to get. When they let us in this country, (they said) you come and arrive in Australia, here you will be safe.”

Rintoull, 24, of Noble Park, pleaded guilty to murder and and was jailed for 20 years with a non-parole term of 16 years.

Sabatino, 21, was jailed for 10 years with a non-parole term of six years after pleading guilty to manslaughter.

Justice Curtain said on September 26, 2007, Rintoull was seen outside his home at 10pm, carrying a metal pole, and yelling and ranting.

He was heard to say “these blacks are turning the town into the Bronx. I’m going to take the town back. I’m looking to kill blacks.”

He also told a friend “I guess I’ll go and take my anger out on some n—–s”.

He confronted a very drunk and helpless Mr Gony, and hit him at least 15 times in the head and body with the pole.

Sabatino, who had gone looking for Rintoull, arrived with a metal pole and joined the bashing. Mr Gony died in hospital.

A flatmate said Rintoull and Sabatino returned after the beating and washed the bloodied and bent metal poles used to kill their victim.

“I bashed a n—-r and I think he’s dead,” Rintoull said.

I’ve got to say that she certanly has someting wrong between her ears…

This crime was not racially motivated???!!!

Hey Lizzie, tell me where you get your jungle juice! Then in her usual fashion she goes on to suppress the press from showing photos of the scumbags because they might be bashed in prison. Wake up Lizzie, everyone in the prison knows who these scumbags are, as we all do outside the prison.

Lizzie, you must have led a very sheltered life.

Attorney General Rob Hulls please explain to the Community who the laws belong to, having told us in 2006 no violent criminals would recieve suspended sentences…

25 July 2006

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Are they a practical way of keeping offenders out of prison and sending them a firm message, or is it like being thrashed with a warm lettuce leaf? Victoria is moving to abolish them and critics say this will limit the options available to the courts, expand prisoner numbers, and throw a whole lot more people onto the jail/crime merry-go-round. But supporters say this reform will help deliver ‘truth in sentencing’.

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This transcript was typed from a recording of the program. The ABC cannot guarantee its complete accuracy because of the possibility of mishearing and occasional difficulty in identifying speakers.

Damien Carrick: Today we explore the ins and outs of suspended sentences. They’re described by their critics as having all the force of being ‘beaten with a warm lettuce leaf’. An offender is found guilty of a crime, a jail sentence is imposed. But then the sentence is suspended.

Well Victoria has just recently announced plans to phase out suspended sentences. The move follows a number of high profile cases where a suspended sentence has prompted community outcry.

Man: I was completely amazed at what the judge had to say, and his reason for not putting him away in the first place I thought was disgraceful. They’ve just lost complete touch with the community at large.

Man: Ultimately, if we remove options from our sentencing armoury, we’re going to run the risk of creating severe injustices.

Damien Carrick: Earlier this month a controversial suspended sentence decision involving a repeat drunk driver, a Mr Taban Gany, was overturned by the Victorian Court of Appeal.

Newsreader: In February, a County Court judge described Taban Gany’s case as one that cried out for mercy, and he handed down a three-year suspended sentence. But today that was quashed by the Court of Appeal after the DPP submitted it was manifestly inadequate. It argued the sentencing judge didn’t take Gany’s prior driving-related offences into account, or give weight to how five young victims have been affected.

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I attended the Supreme Court today for the sentencing of a thug who would be three times the body weight of his victim…A real coward you would have to say, a thug and a women basher.

This thug who lied his way through interview after interview with police finally fessed up and pleaded guilty to the brutal attack on a defenseless woman.

I have to say this would have been a plea bargain by our penny pinching Judicial System. This scumbag to be in the Supreme Court would have been charged with attempted murder by the police in the first place.

November 25 was of course White Ribbon Day, all about violence against women. But to hear that silly old twit Justice Betty King at the sentencing you would think it was about an unpaid parking fine, not attempted murder!

Old Judge Betty is past her use by date (a thought that went through my head years ago). She went through the usual woffle you hear from a lot of these old defense barristers who become judges.

It is very embarrassing when you hear fools like King talk about the likes of Scott Alan Murdoch…How he drew a hard card in life, had depression, was a victim of sexual assaults from a now deceased uncle and a lot more that I won’t bore you with.

In other words, the same old bullshit that we have all heard before.

One of Judge Betty’s classics was when she said the delay in going to trial would have been hard on the scumbag, then as an after thought she also mentioned the victim.

Well Judge Betty there is no fool like and old fool, and I’ve got to say with that statement you proved that theory correct! The scumbag was there by self invitation unlike the victim.

Hey Betty, don’t you think it’s time to retire? That’s Just a thought that crosses my mind every time you hand down a sentence……..

Scott Alan Murdoch jailed for at least five years for an attack on a woman he met on chat line Hot Gossip

* Norrie Ross
* From: Herald Sun
* November 25, 2009 1:26PM

A MAN who savagely bashed and stabbed a woman he met on a chat line called Hot Gossip was jailed for a minimum of five years today.

Justice Betty King said Scott Alan Murdoch went to the victim’s home, and after she refused to have sex with him he launched a ferocious attack on her.

He stabbed her twice in the neck and once on the cheek and hit her head with a heavy paperweight before leaving her unconscious and stealing her handbag and car.

In her Supreme Court sentence, Justice King told Murdoch, 32, his unprovoked attack left his victim with severe physical injuries that had blighted her life.

Justice King said Karen Cheeseman was a single mum on a disability support pension when she was contacted in the early hours of the morning on Hot Gossip by “Scott from Pakenham”.

Ms Cheeseman and Murdoch exchanged text messages and she agreed to drive from Berwick to Pakenham to meet him, but he did not turn up.

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The judge said Ms Cheeseman was later contacted again by Murdoch and had driven to Pakenham and took him to her home.

Justice King said the pair watched television and each had a single mixed drink and Murdoch started to roam around her home looking into rooms.

Murdoch then tried to kiss and cuddle Ms Cheeseman and asked her for sex.

When she refused he asked her to take him back to Pakenham but she did not want to drive because she had been drinking.

Justice King said Ms Cheeseman became concerned at Murdoch’s behaviour and as she tried to call 000 he attacked her, throttling her, stabbing her and bashing her with a paperweight.

Justice King said the mother of two was unconscious for some time and spent six weeks in hospital.

She has to wear a leg brace, her left arm is “dead” and she suffers vision problems that prevent her from driving.

Murdoch, who had previously pleaded guilty to charges of intentionally causing serious injury and theft, received a maximum prison term of seven years.

Outside court Ms Cheeseman said she believed the sentence should have been longer.

The system failed Erwin Kastenberger (as it has failed so many victims)
by the merciful sentencing of this low life scumbag who should have been in jail when he shot Erwin in cold blood. The judiciary and the parole board must be made accountable for their actions…

Hugo Rich has been sentenced to life over the death of security guard Erwin Kastenberger

* Geoff Wilkinson
* From: Herald Sun
* November 13, 2009 8:09AM

UPDATE 11.46am: ONE of Victoria’s most notorious prisoners will spend 30 years in jail after being sentenced today for the murder of a security guard during a holdup.

Hugo Rich was sentenced to life imprisonment with a minimum non-parole period of 30 years for the shooting death of Chubb guard Erwin Kastenberger at a North Blackburn shopping centre in 2005 and the armed robbery of $162,000.

Rich, 57, has already spent 22 of the past 25 years in jail.

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Justice Lex Lasry told him in the Supreme Court he regarded him as irredeemable and incapable of rehabilitation.

“What you did was kill Mr Kastenberger consciously and deliberately in circumstances where the money which was the target of your plan had been surrendered,” Justice Lasry told Rich.

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“It was a senseless and callous killing”.

The judge said Rich had an appalling criminal record dating back to 1971. He had 80 convictions from 15 court appearances and a large proportion of his life had been wasted committing crime.

The shooting of Mr Kastenberger on March 8, 2005, occurred within five months of Rich’s release on parole after serving an armed robbery sentence.

The prosecution had urged Justice Lasry to hand the unrepentant Rich a life term, saying he would “not be falling into error” if he locked up the heartless killer with no hope of release.

“There is absolutely no prospect of rehabilitation whatsoever,” prosecutor Michael Tinney SC said.

Mr Tinney said the death was brutal and totally unnecessary, given Mr Kastenberger posed no threat.

Rich, who was surrounded by five burly prison officers as he was brought into court, said he wished Justice Lasry well as he was led from the dock after being sentenced.

But as he walked past the bench while leaving the court he muttered “Idiot”.

Mr Kastenberger’s widow, Robyn, said outside court the sentence was “fantastic, absolutely fantastic”.

“I’ve got what I needed today. Thirty years and he’ll never be out. That’s what I need,” Mrs Kastenberger said.

“It’s a marvellous relief, and it is justice”.

She thanked her family and other crime victims for their support through the marathon 4 1/2-year legal process.

Rich’s trial earlier this year lasted four months. His defence since he was arrested five weeks after the fatal holdup is estimated to have cost taxpayers over $1 million.

But Rich’s lawyer said he should get a discount for the long hold-up in his case – even though it was caused by Rich’s own delaying tactics.

The prosecution scoffed at the suggestion the four-year delay should count in Rich’s favour, saying he had attempted to thwart the legal process at every turn.

Rich has acquired smuggled mobile phones and digital cameras and obtained unauthorized internet access during his time in jail. He has also been involved in prison assaults, fires and hunger strikes.

Probably the most well-read and knowledgable jailhouse lawyer in the country, he is notorious for sacking his lawyers, disrupting trials with outbursts from the dock and using delaying tactics designed to exhaust the prosecution.

He has earned a steady income in jail by reviewing police briefs of evidence and preparing legal documents for other prisoners.

Justice Lasry said Rich had treated the court with contempt during his trial. He said Rich had abused the judge and prosecution lawyers and tried to manipulate the legal process and intimidate the judge by threatening to sack his own lawyers and appear unrepresented.

Justice Lasry said there was no question of remorse because Rich disputed the verdict and maintained his innocence.

The judge said he was satisfied that Rich “deliberately and cold bloodedly” shot Mr Kastenberger as described by witnesses at the busy shopping centre.

“The unknown factor is why you did that,” Justice Lasry said.

“There is no evidence on which I can conclude that issue, but the jury’s verdict represents a verdict that you deliberately fired a shot into Mr Kastenberger with the necessary intent.

“Both guards were armed but neither made any attempt to use their firearms to defend themselves or the money being carried”.

Rich’s trial was told that Mr Kastenberger threw down the bag of money as soon as he was confronted by Rich and a co-offender.

The judge said he was prepared to accept that although Rich went to the shopping centre with a loaded .9mm pistol he had not planned to kill either of the two security guards delivering the money to a bank.

“However, I am satisfied that you took the loaded firearm with you on the basis that you would use it to make good your escape if you had to,” Justice Lasry said.

“You obviously felt that need had arisen and had no hesitation is using the gun to kill Mr Kastenberger”.

Every day we hear tragic news about little children, victims of the ever evil of pedophiles. Then we hear even more tragic news that their little bodies are found. It would be difficult to imagine a subject today that occupies the minds of Victorians more than the subject of violent crime! The people in government and judiciary would have us believe that our crime rate is falling. They tell us that we have less criminals caught by our police than in NSW. Now that is probably right as we have about 4000 police less than our neighbouring State, the State that catches more violent criminals than we do…The State were it’s people feel much safer walking the streets than they do here in Victoria.

A traffic policeman doing his duties in Dandenong pulls over a car for a routine check is set upon by the occupants of the vehicle and finishes up in hospital. This is disgraceful, outrageous and unacceptable. The thugs have been arrested and charged, but what awaits them? Without a doubt you would have to say a merciful judge, a user friendly court for criminals and a suspended sentence.

Unfortunately, like other countries around the world, we do not have a national crime clock like they do in America for Victims of Crime that tells them that there is;

One murder in America every 31 minutes, a violent crime every 22 seconds, a property crime every 9 seconds, a rape every 2 minutes, an automobile stolen every 19 seconds, a DWI caused death occurs every 40 minutes, domestic violence occurs every 52 seconds and a child abuse case reported every 35 seconds. This does not include the “Hate crimes” that are on the rise.

The threat of Crime hovers over every community in every nation in the world like an ominous dark cloud.

What we do have in Victoria is a Judicial System unlike anything else in the world. It is a system were murderers, rapists, drug dealers, sex offenders and violent perverts are turned out on the street by a judicial system that is supposed to be the watchdog of our freedoms.

Attorney General Rob Hulls came out some time back with the usual fanfare, and I quote. “No more suspended sentences for violent criminals”. unquote.

Yeah yeah Rob heard it all before from you, keep the revolving door going it all goes hand in hand with being a bleeding heart.

Every law abiding Victorian is either a direct or indirect victim of the revolving door criminal justice system that has now reached a direct and indirect cost in excess of millions annually. Criminals with records for violence roam our streets because of The No Truth in Sentencing promoted by our Judicial System. They freely roam our streets because of probation, plea-bargains, leniency and/or due to simple judicial discretion shown by defense lawyer (“lay down with dogs as defense lawyers”) turned judges who eventually turn criminals loose.

The payment of crime compensation is not nearly enough…

We have victims who are suffering and we ask why a payment of $10,000 for example, is the maximum amount that can be given to someone who ends up in a wheel chair…$10,000 is supposed to compensate them for the rest of their life–the victim of a violent cime???

The Govenment and their advisers tell us that this is the best that they can do, yet we see the MP’s having junkets overseas where it is first class all the way and back.

We ask why it is that the perpetrator, on his or her release from jail after five or six years, should not have pay half of any income for the rest of his/hers life directly to their victims…

We are told he or she has served their time…That they have been punished enough.

I find it very hard to believe how any intelligent human being can give an answer like that given that victims of crime have their life taken from them and destroyed forever.

Take a look at this and read my comments afterwards…

23 sex fiends living among us – and we’re banned from telling you where

* Geoff Wilkinson
* From: Herald Sun
* October 22, 2009 12:00AM

TWENTY-three of the state’s worst sex offenders are living secretly among us.

The State Government refuses to reveal where the 21 men and two women are living despite serious public concerns.

It was revealed that more than half of the 45 released sex offenders still considered a serious danger are not in the so-called “village of the damned” compound outside Ararat Jail.

They are living in Melbourne and other country areas in housing approved by the Parole Board. Most are living in government housing or renting, but some are believed to be in their own homes.

The growing number of sex offenders released from jail on supervision orders because they are considered a high risk of reoffending is creating major accommodation problems for authorities.

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The identity and location of such offenders has been routinely suppressed.

A Corrections Victoria spokeswoman said yesterday the location of offenders living in the community was kept secret because of court orders, privacy considerations and concerns about vigilante behaviour that could jeopardise offenders’ access to treatment.

Their proximity to schools, kindergartens and playgrounds was among the factors considered.

Thirty ex-prisoners are now under extended supervision orders for up to 15 years.

Another 15 are on interim orders made by County Court judges pending a court hearing to decide whether an ESO is appropriate.

Judges must be convinced offenders about to be released are still a serious danger to the community before they issue a supervision order.

Three released sex offenders were returned to custody during 2008-09 after breaching their supervision orders by committing new offences.

Parole Board manager David Provan said two had been released on ESOs and the other was on an interim order.

Child safety and crime victim groups yesterday said the public should be told where serious sex offenders were living.

Dr Joe Tucci, chief executive of the Australian Childhood Foundation, said community leaders, at least, should know the whereabouts of offenders living in their area.

“People like school principals, kindergarten heads and local police – people with responsibility for children – should be told,” Dr Tucci said.

“That would at least give the rest of the community confidence there was another layer of surveillance and scrutiny involved.”

Crime Victims Support Association president Noel McNamara said parents “need to be given a fighting chance to protect their children”.

“We don’t want to know their addresses, but the public has a right to know what suburbs these people are living in so they can be on full alert,” he said.

Mr McNamara said he had believed all released sex offenders on ESOs were housed at Ararat.

But Liberty Victoria president Michael Pearce, SC, said the law struck a reasonable balance between community protection and rehabilitation of offenders.

Mr Pearce said the community could be satisfied they were adequately protected by the very stringent conditions applied to people on ESOs.

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